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Marcel SIneM(S)US<p><a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> diskutiert Maßnahmen gegen den Ansturm der KI-<a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Crawler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Crawler</span></a> | heise online <a href="https://www.heise.de/news/Technische-Massnahmen-gegen-den-Ansturm-der-KI-Crawler-10497930.html" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/news/Technische-Massn</span><span class="invisible">ahmen-gegen-den-Ansturm-der-KI-Crawler-10497930.html</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/Webcrawler" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Webcrawler</span></a> <a href="https://social.tchncs.de/tags/ArtificialIntelligence" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ArtificialIntelligence</span></a></p>
heise Security<p>Podcast "Passwort" Folge 37: DNSSEC, die DNS Security Extensions</p><p>DNS ist ein Grundpfeiler des Internets – umso wichtiger, dass die Namensauflösung verlässliche Daten liefert. Wie DNSSEC dabei hilft, erklärt ein kundiger Gast.</p><p><a href="https://www.heise.de/news/Podcast-Passwort-Folge-37-DNSSEC-die-DNS-Security-Extensions-10498530.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/news/Podcast-Passwort</span><span class="invisible">-Folge-37-DNSSEC-die-DNS-Security-Extensions-10498530.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Automatisierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Automatisierung</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/DANE" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DANE</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/DNS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DNS</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/DNSSEC" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>DNSSEC</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IT</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/PasswortPodcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>PasswortPodcast</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Podcast" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Podcast</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Security</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a></p>
heise online<p>NIS2-Umsetzung: EU-Kommission lädt in Expertengruppe ein</p><p>Bis zum Ende des Jahres will die EU-Kommission ein neues "Multi-Stakeholder-Forum zur Einführung von Internetstandards" ins Leben rufen.</p><p><a href="https://www.heise.de/news/NIS2-Umsetzung-EU-Kommission-laedt-in-Expertengruppe-ein-10500402.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/news/NIS2-Umsetzung-E</span><span class="invisible">U-Kommission-laedt-in-Expertengruppe-ein-10500402.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/EU" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>EU</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/ICANN" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>ICANN</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Netzpolitik" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Netzpolitik</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/NIS" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>NIS</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Regulierung" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Regulierung</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Security" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Security</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Wirtschaft" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Wirtschaft</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a></p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>In the transcript of an <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> meeting, "I dislike that intensely" became "I did like this intensely".</p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>The speaker at <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> is francophone and adds many "Alors" and "Voilà" in his talk in english :-)</p>
Erik Nygren :verified:<p>Cool set of tools linked to today in a presentation in the <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/HAPPYWG" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HAPPYWG</span></a> session:</p><p><a href="https://www.happy-eyeballs.net/" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="">happy-eyeballs.net/</span><span class="invisible"></span></a></p><p>It allows you to characterize the Happy Eyeballs behavior of a client, such as to see how much of a delay in DNS resolution or TCP connection response triggers a failback from IPv6 to IPv4.</p><p>See more details in Dave Plonka's talk: </p><p><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/123/materials/slides-123-happy-hackathon-maprg-happy-eyeballs-and-ipv6-test-pod-open-testing-00" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/1</span><span class="invisible">23/materials/slides-123-happy-hackathon-maprg-happy-eyeballs-and-ipv6-test-pod-open-testing-00</span></a></p><p><a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/HappyEyeballs" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>HappyEyeballs</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/IPv6" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IPv6</span></a> <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/IETF123" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF123</span></a></p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Heard at <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a>: "paywall standards [ISO was mentioned as an example] are a security problem [because implementors will not be able to work on the real standard]"</p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Seen on a slide at <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a><br>"from all over the world (mostly Europe)" </p><p><a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/smallWorld" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>smallWorld</span></a></p>
heiseonline<p>KI-Unternehmen schicken massenhaft neue Crawler los. Wie diese geregelt werden können, beschäftigt auch die IETF. <a class="hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" href="https://bsky.app/search?q=%23IETF" target="_blank">#IETF</a><br><br><a href="https://www.heise.de/news/Technische-Massnahmen-gegen-den-Ansturm-der-KI-Crawler-10497930.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.bluesky.bluesky.bs_beitraege.bs_beitraege" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">Technische Maßnahmen gegen den...</a></p>
heise online<p>Technische Maßnahmen gegen den Ansturm der KI-Crawler</p><p>KI-Unternehmen schicken massenhaft neue Crawler los. Wie diese geregelt werden können, beschäftigt auch die IETF.</p><p><a href="https://www.heise.de/news/Technische-Massnahmen-gegen-den-Ansturm-der-KI-Crawler-10497930.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://www.</span><span class="ellipsis">heise.de/news/Technische-Massn</span><span class="invisible">ahmen-gegen-den-Ansturm-der-KI-Crawler-10497930.html?wt_mc=sm.red.ho.mastodon.mastodon.md_beitraege.md_beitraege&amp;utm_source=mastodon</span></a></p><p><a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/Internet" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Internet</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/IT" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IT</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/K%C3%BCnstlicheIntelligenz" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>KünstlicheIntelligenz</span></a> <a href="https://social.heise.de/tags/news" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>news</span></a></p>
Erik Nygren :verified:<p>Many people on the <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> wifi networks in Madrid are running into problems using <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.world/@signalapp" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>signalapp</span></a></span>. My hypothesis is that the large number of users in a small number of IPv6 /64s is triggering some rate-limiting. Does <a href="https://hachyderm.io/tags/Signal" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>Signal</span></a> have the ability to apply reputation and rate-limits on a /128 basis for specific /64s? (Clearly future IETFs should use /64-per-host as <span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.nl/@abhayakara" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>abhayakara</span></a></span> pointed out on the mailing list.)</p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Now, the <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> itself: impact of crawlers on the many IETF Web services. The IETF data must be public, so blocking is not an option in most cases.</p><p>20 Mbytes (on 277 by month) are sent to bots. (AI crawlers are a minority of these bots.)</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF123" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF123</span></a></p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Heard in the <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> meeting: "milestones are aspirations"</p>
JP Mens<p>so it wasn't bad enough that google pops up all over the show with their signin dialog on the top right, so the <a href="https://mastodon.social/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> follows suit with their form of bullshit?</p><p>I'm neither an attendee nor have I an account there.</p><p><a href="https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc1034" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/</span><span class="invisible">rfc1034</span></a></p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Ayant entendu le terme anglophone de "centa-thread" à l'<a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a>, je propose de parler d'«&nbsp;hectofil&nbsp;» pour un fil de discussion sur une liste de discussion, qui a dépassé cent messages.</p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>In the chat of the Meetecho tool at an <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> meeting: "I don't have a time machine, unfortunately, as evident by the lack of pterosaurs pets attending IETF"</p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Vague observation pseudo-sociologique : à la réunion de l'<a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a>, il y a beaucoup plus de femmes dans le groupe sur la crypto post-quantique que dans ceux du DNS.</p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>Can we apply the laws of war (for instance the distinction between combatant and civilian) to online conflicts? The same Internet is used by everybody...</p><p>(At <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a>, this is also related to the DIEM project, which meets tomorrow.)</p><p><a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF123" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF123</span></a></p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p><span class="h-card" translate="no"><a href="https://mastodon.social/@Edent" class="u-url mention" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">@<span>Edent</span></a></span> Works for me (from the <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> network in Madrid).</p>
Stéphane Bortzmeyer<p>How the <a href="https://mastodon.gougere.fr/tags/IETF" class="mention hashtag" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">#<span>IETF</span></a> apparently managed to saturate its network link during a meeting :-) <a href="https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/123all/rQbcsSLj-JrZL_5_6cB4TabWT5k" rel="nofollow noopener" translate="no" target="_blank"><span class="invisible">https://</span><span class="ellipsis">mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/</span><span class="invisible">123all/rQbcsSLj-JrZL_5_6cB4TabWT5k</span></a></p>
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